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00:35 Feb 27 2007
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Scholars, Clergy Criticize Jesus Documentary

Film Contradicts Beliefs at Heart of Christianity

By MARSHALL THOMPSON

AP

NEW YORK (Feb. 26) -- Filmmakers and scholars on Monday unveiled two stone ossuaries they said could have contained the remains of Jesus and Mary Magdalene, but several other scholars derided claims in a new documentary as unfounded and contradictory to basic Christian beliefs.

"The Lost Tomb of Jesus," produced by Oscar-winning director James Cameron and airing on the Discovery Channel on March 4, argues that 10 ancient ossuaries -- small caskets used to store bones -- discovered in a suburb of Jerusalem in 1980 may have contained the bones of Jesus and his family.



One of the caskets bears the title, "Judah, son of Jesus," hinting that Jesus may have had a son, according to the film. The very fact that Jesus had an ossuary would contradict the Christian belief that he was resurrected and ascended to heaven.



"There's a definite sense that you have to pinch yourself, that what you're doing, that email you just sent, is real," Cameron said at Monday's news conference. He told NBC'S "Today" show earlier Monday that statisticians found "in the range of a couple of million to one" the likelihood of that grouping of names appearing together on ossuaries in one place.



Simcha Jacobovici, the Toronto filmmaker who directed the documentary, said that a name of one of the ossuaries -- "Mariamene" -- is a major support to the argument that the tomb is that of Jesus and his family. In early Christian texts, "Mariamene" is the name of Mary Magdalene, he said.



Most Christians believe Jesus' body spent three days at the site of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem's Old City. The burial site identified in Cameron's documentary is in a southern Jerusalem neighborhood nowhere near the church.



In 1996, when the British Broadcasting Corp. aired a short documentary on the same subject, archaeologists challenged the claims. Amos Kloner, the first archaeologist to examine the site, said the idea fails to hold up by archaeological standards but makes for profitable television.



"They just want to get money for it," Kloner said.



Shimon Gibson, one of three archaeologists who first discovered the tomb in 1980, said Monday of the film's claims: "I'm skeptical, but that's the way I am. I'm willing to accept the possibility."



The film's claims, however, have raised the ire of Christian leaders in the Holy Land.



Stephen Pfann, a biblical scholar at the University of the Holy Land in Jerusalem who was interviewed in the documentary, said the film's hypothesis holds little weight.



"I don't think that Christians are going to buy into this," Pfann said. "But skeptics, in general, would like to see something that pokes holes into the story that so many people hold dear."



"How possible is it?" Pfann said. "On a scale of one through 10 -- 10 being completely possible -- it's probably a one, maybe a one and a half."



Pfann is even unsure that the name "Jesus" on the caskets was read correctly. He thinks it's more likely the name "Hanun." Ancient Semitic script is notoriously difficult to decipher.



Kloner also said the filmmakers' assertions are false. "The names on the caskets are the most common names found among Jews at the time," he said.



William Dever, an expert on near eastern archaeology and anthropology, who has worked with Israeli archeologists for five decades, said specialists have known about the ossuaries for years.



"The fact that it's been ignored tells you something," said Dever, professor emeritus at the University of Arizona. "It would be amusing if it didn't mislead so many people."



Osnat Goaz, a spokeswoman for the Israeli government agency responsible for archaeology, said the Antiquities Authority agreed to send two ossuaries to New York, but they did not contain human remains. "We agreed to send the ossuaries, but it doesn't mean that we agree with" the filmmakers, she said.



Associated Press Writer Marshall Thompson contributed to this report from Jerusalem and AP Religion Writer Rachel Zoll contributed from New York.




Now I know this is one of those hard to believe things. I have a hard time as well. It's amazing to me though. Even if it's just a rare find, it still is a link to the past lives of people we have questions about. A time when things were so different. The way of life, people, living etc.



Not to mention these tombs have with stood an amazing era of time. Through all the different climates, erosion and even humanity. They found in small boxes that were held within a ossuaries. It's amazing that someone thoughout the times didn't stumbles across this and remove the items. A horrid thought but, grave robbers were not just a tale.

It really just makes me say,"Wow!". Removing the factor of religion, assending to heaven and so on, Jesus was an amazing person. He had strength, knowledge, leadership and so much more. He changed the way people in his time thought. He held onto his beliefs. He stood his ground. He never let anyone change him.

I think it would be breath taking to find that and think to yourself," I am holding the remains of a man that was divine. A man that paved the way for so many different things."

I guess it all goes back to we believe what we believe. What was instilled in us, still influences the way some people think today. Some choose to say within that box. Letting the walls keep them nesteled into a world of always knowing. Never questioning.

I am excited by the "what ifs" in like that make you think. Make you want to do a double take. Things that could possibly change the world or thoughts as we know them. Even thought this could be one of those big "what ifs", I find my conscience asking me the age old question.

"Even if it could true, is it really worth abolishing numerous people's beliefs? Beliefs that have been pass on throughout countless years.Beliefs that keep some people going in life."

My answer is a divided one. My stanse is more towards the No. I know shocking right?

No, because what harm is it that people believe in faith. That they find joy in singing, preaching, gathering and loving a higher power. That is what get's some people through the day. That is what keeps people living when life seems to just fall apart around you. There is no harm in believing. It can acutally be a wonderful thing.

Then there is that little yes side of me.

Yes to only certain people. The people who decide that their way is the right way. That their way is the ONLY way. That everything else is not worthy enough. Those that think their life is better than everyone else's because they have found " The Lord." The people who try to push their beliefs on you. They say," If you don't believe you are a sinner! You will be damned to hell." ( which really I don't understand because if you are Catholic you can say I'm sorry for anything and all is forgotten. That's a totally different topic.)

I guess basically yes to the people who choose to shatter's other's beliefs. Who never take the time to realize it doesn't matter who you worship. It matter's who you answer to.



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03:54 Feb 23 2007
Times Read: 764






Everytime I hear the song The Gift by Seether.. it makes me think of an STD.



Hell if someone gave me the funk, I'd be ashamed too.

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